1986 Divine Emergence Event Knee of Listening changes
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People just make stuff up all the time in their subjectivity. But what does that have to do with God-Realization, freedom from all bondage except to convey a kind of disassociation from the conditional domain as an actual domain in which Real Signs are shown.
So for example the way I heard the story: there were a number of women and men who ran to the room in sequence and that Ruchirdama Quandra Sukhapur was even the last to arrive because she stopped to smoke a cigarette outside on her way there.
Then, once arrived, she was crying in a corner while Other ladies were pleading with Beloved to Return for the sake of His daughters and while Julie was flat on her back on the floor as a result of the Profusion and Intensity of His Siddhi.
Is this a Secret Biography of sorts? What's True, the official published version or this version? The question itself begs a similar answer as 'If you never take your hat off, you will never grow old' admonition suggests.
Don’t you think that anyone deeply interested enough in Him is going to dig up some secret version of His Biography as a means to Get to Know Him better???
Seems pretty obvious to me that if the Shoe Fits…that’s the version most likely to be closest to the Truth.
The Truth is never Lilly White. That’s what makes it Inherently Interesting and Attractive. So why not begin with Honesty and establish a Trust in the Secret Biography that somehow never gets published for all sorts of reasons too boring to get into here.
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@NEisen The four different reasons Adi Da drew back into His Body aren't an example of "the changes in literature", because they are all four given by Adi Da himself in a single alinea in one talk : "I do not have memory of the sequence of events that followed for a little while, but I am told that many devotees came running to my house. Doctors came and tried to resuscitate me. Eventually, I began to reassociate with the body, although I was not aware of the room exactly, nor of who was there. I began to speak of my greater concerns and impulses and of my great sorrow for the four billion humans and all the | rest of the beings everywhere. I cannot endure such I sorrow very well—I have never endured it very well. I have had to bring myself very deliberately to this Work. And in this Event, I was drawn further into the body with a very human impulse, a love-impulse. Becoming aware of my special relationship with Kalottara Devi Mataji10 and my profound relationship with all my devotees, I resumed the bodily state." No one changed the literature here, but Adi Da gave different reasons that drew him back into His Body.
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Thanks Ivo for your observation.
I note that in the passage from 1986 Adi Da refers to “my greater concerns and impulses and of my great sorrow for the four billion humans and all the rest of the beings everywhere”, “my special relationship with Kalottara Devi Mataji” and “my profound relationship with all my devotees”
What I was pointing to as the "the changes in literature" is the changing way in which the Divine Emergence has been referred to over time as evident in the literature highlighted at the beginning of this post.
The 1995, 2004 and 2013 versions refer to “four billion people”
The 1992 version refers to “four billion humans” and “My profound relationship with all My devotees”
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@NEisen You wrote : "It morphed over time from from being His “special relationship with Kalottara Devi Mataji” to “My profound relationship with all My devotees” to “four billion people” and possibly there are some other published versions…" The quote from 1986 contains all of these phrases, so as far as I can see it didn't "morph over time" ?
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@Ivo that would necessitate people who want nothing to do with one another consenting to tolerate one another enough to even come into the room together, then listening to one another’s perspective about What Happened, considering it with True Honesty and Vulnerability and consenting to Tell the Truth when held to account.
Those that are willing to do that are not even acknowledged as existing by those who hold all the authority to make it happen.
Or if, say, one person had a very real memory of a (subjective) experience that can’t be accounted for by anyone else who was present, getting into what that’s all about as a Reality Consideration (subject/object or waking, dreaming, sleeping, turiya and beyond turiya states) in Love.
Such a Cultural Process is utterly absent from Adidam today (Adi Da was the Only One Free enough and Seriousness enough to Do It) yet the willingness to participate in such a Serious Process collectively and be held to Account via such a process collectively might actually Reveal and even Demonstrate an even more Profound Dimension of Beloved Adi Da’s Divine Emergence here. If allowed…
And it might allow a Magnification and Potency into this world as a whole bodily demonstration of what transcends separate self altogether in Prior Unity, Magnifying That Which is Utterly Beyond conditional reality.
Unfortunately this is a world where sociopaths tend to ‘fail upwards’ via conditional means and are seemingly rewarded for it, propped up, coddled, enabled, even cultified, then scapegoated.
So you wind up, for example, with a Sacred Order that can’t even handle having more than a single individual in it because of such an inability to embody Sacred Collective principles of True Order.
How do you make ‘Sacred Order’ out of ‘The Exception is Always the Rule’?
That’s like having someone who is exempt from all the Rules telling everyone else what the Rules are and that participation is hinged on following them exactly a certain way while simultaneously thumbing their nose at all Rules. It’s a walking contradiction set up for failure.
There has never been a Secret Biography told of the lives of any Great Realizer by those who were present for this reason.
Whatever Secret Biography exists is made up of random piecemeal versions here and there, recorded artifacts that often remain buried and Secret until uncovered.
For example, I discovered entirely on my own (rather unwittingly) the Lawsuit that was filed in 1985 and happened to notice one line that basically stated the reason why the Lawsuit was filed and it named none other that the Legal Representative of the Holy Samrajya as the reason.
I called her up and asked her how she felt about her name being stated so openly as the reason why the Lawsuit was actually filed. She broke down in tears as a result of not even having any idea that this was out there or that her name was included. So I’m scratching my head as to how the Legal representation could be so unaware of something in her own wheelhouse and that the Lawsuit points directly to the Legal representation for the Holy Samrajya as the basis for it being filed.
But it happens.
Meanwhile the story that had been fed to me for years about the blame associated with that very Lawsuit always seemed to tie it directly back to Julie, as if it was entirely her fault. Julie was blamed for everything negative that Adidam has endured and that became the larger than life narrative blown up in the fishbowl of Adidam that I came into.
Yet here I am seeing in black and white a legal document proving otherwise…
So the narrative I was fed was not actually the Truth of what happened.
And there are other examples to do with Sacred Verses in Adi Da’s own Teaching and Written Word that were born of relationship and exchanges between Adi Da and Julie.
Yet she was written out of that Sacred History and those stories were re-appropriated (aka stolen) by other women as their own. I’ve heard and seen it a thousand times.
Gifts have been stolen (or ‘re-appropriated’). Hundreds of gifts by hundreds of devotees (my own included) just offered as if we don’t even exist.
In some very Real Divine sense, we don’t, so it’s Transcendentally Perfect and Appropriate by Divine Means Only.
But if that Reality is the Only Reality That Exists, why bother making much of anyone at all then?
Why make up a story or allow a story to be made up that is inherently false, which makes a big deal about anyone?
Unless of course if it’s politically motivated? And that right there is all you need to know that the story wasn’t made by Adi Da Himself.
Adi Da is a-political.
So myth can be very powerful which is why it’s never sufficient to merely believe what is printed on any page or what anyone tells you.
So many Leelas just floating around out there that result in nothing more than a kind of gossip rumor mill.
What Function does that actually serve?
So anyone can do their own research to find out the Truth.
Experiment with the Real process in Real Direct Relationship with the Avataric Great Sage Adi Da Samraj.
Anyone who wants to find out the Truth will do so. That’s the Law.
And whatever could be made meaningful of any of that requires a Cultural and Spiritual Anthropological approach to uncover, using skillful means to make Radical Sense of, especially In light of the absence of a True Cooperative Culture functioning transparently to ensure honest representation across the board.
So it’s not officially or even unofficially being made into an easily consumable published form. At the moment such a Secret Biography does exist but it’s only for the most Serious to be discovered, like Sacred Treasures or Precious Jewels of Wisdom. And it may not be accessible in documented form either.
chances of a formally published version of a Secret Biography coming together as a cohesive effort as regards Adi Da’s own Life are pretty much zero is the answer to your question. But that doesn’t mean you can’t find it if you want to find Him Out Further.
suffice is to say the existing published version of His biography is intended largely to serve an exoteric dimension of understanding. An approaching curiosity.
For those serious enough to uncover the Secret Biography, more dedication, seriousness and work is inherently required as part of the process of uncovering it given this fact.
And you may even get kicked out of the formal Teaching or work while uncovering it.
Maybe it’s Given or Revealed by Grace and the price is: letting go of everything else including the official Teaching and official published biography in the process.
‘Drifted into Deeper Lands’…(I’m making reference to the Actual Meaning of Adi Da’s Own Words, not the title of the published version of a book by the same title which appropriated His Words).